Friday, November 13, 2009

Why do jews now claim Jesus was jewish?

The new testament expressly states `Jesus departed from Galilee and came into the coasts of Judea` To the jews Galilee was the land of Gentiles, whose population `sat in darkness` They said `can there any good thing come out of Nazareth?` and `art thou also of Galilee? Search and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet`.


The Hebrews were so firmly convinced of the non jewish ancestry of Jesus that they counted him among the especially hated samarians.


Also the jewish holy book Talmud denounces Jesus and Mary.








The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book. Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. The Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus' time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it the Scribes and Pharisees.





The following study is based on the Jewish-authorized, English translation of the Babylonian Talmud: the Soncino edition. Every selection we cite is documented directly from the text of the authoritative Soncino Talmud. We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish Talmud. Look them up for yourself. To verify the Talmud passages cited, refer to the Soncino edition Talmud, which may be found in large university and seminary libraries. The Soncino Talmud may also be purchased from book dealers.





The implementation of Talmudic philosophy has caused untold suffering throughout history and now in occupied Palestine it is used as a justification for the mass murder and current enslavement of Palestinian civilians.








Quotes from the Talmud concerning the master Jewish race





Erubin 21b: Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.





Moed Kattan 17a : If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.





Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Non-Jews are Not Human. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals ("she-asses").





Sanhedrin 58b: Jews are Divine. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, THE GENTILE MUST BE KILLED. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.





Sanhedrin 57a: O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews. A Jew need not pay a Christian ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.





Baba Kamma 37b: Jews Have Superior Legal Status. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."





Baba Mezia 24a: Jews May Steal from Non-Jews. If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).





Sanhedrin 76a: God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."





Sanhedrin 57a: JEWS MAY ROB AND KILL NON-JEWS. When a Jew murders a Christian ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.





Baba Kamma 37b: Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."





Baba Kamma 113a: Jews May Lie to Non-Jews . JEWS MAY USE LIES ("subterfuges") TO CIRCUMVENT A GENTILE.





Yebamoth 98a: Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human. All Gentile children are animals.





Abodah Zarah 36b: Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.





Abodah Zarah 22a-22b: Gentiles prefer sex with cows.





Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in Shabbath 104b it is stated in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud that Jesus' mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.





Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was? He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."





Sanhedrin 43a Jesus ("Yeshu" the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery.





Gittin 57a . Says Jesus is being boiled in "hot excrement".





Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"





Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.





Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians. Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).





Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it.





Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.





Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.





Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl. (specifically, three years "and a day" old).





Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as that child is over nine years old.





Kethuboth 11b . When a older man has intercourse with a girl it is nothing because her virginity will grow back.





Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.





Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.





Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.





Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."





Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dogs excrement as it loosens the limbs."





Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.





Menahoth 43b-44a . A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a Gentile, a woman or a slave.





Shabbath 86a-86b . Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark.





Gittin 57b . Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).





Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the Gentiles should all be killed"). This passage is not from the Soncino edition but is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).





On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple of the late Rabbi Kahane who has stated that his view of Arabs as "dogs" is "from the Talmud." (Cf. CBS "60 Minutes", "Kahane").





Univ. of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldsteins philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against "goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).





Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).





Rabbi Yaacov Perrin says, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

Why do jews now claim Jesus was jewish?
Jesus wasn't any nationality, he was above such primitivism. But here's what he said about those who wanted to kill him...





John 8:44


You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.





This is what he taught...





From the Naassenes, the first christians (Peter's Church attempted to destroy it)


"Moses, a faithful servant, was a laughingstock, having been named "the Friend," since they perversely bore witness concerning him who never knew me. Neither he nor those before him, from Adam to Moses and John the Baptist, none of them knew me nor my brothers. For they had a doctrine of angels to observe dietary laws and bitter slavery, since they never knew truth, nor will they know it."





"For there is a great deception upon their soul, making it impossible for them ever to find a Nous of freedom in order to know him, until they come to know the Son of Man. Now concerning my Father, I am he whom the world did not know, and because of this, it (the world) rose up against me and my brothers. But we are innocent with respect to him; we have not sinned."





"For the Archon was a laughingstock because he said, "I am God, and there is none greater than I. I alone am the Father, the Lord, and there is no other beside me. I am a jealous God, who brings the sins of the fathers upon the children for three and four generations." As if he had become stronger than I and my brothers! But we are innocent with respect to him, in that we have not sinned, since we mastered his teaching. Thus he was in an empty glory. And he does not agree with our Father. And thus through our fellowship we grasped his teaching, since he was vain in an empty glory. And he does not agree with our Father, for he was a laughingstock and judgment and false prophecy."





That's why they attempted to crucify him.
Reply:Jesus was a Jew. He spoke Amharic and Hebrew. He was King of the Jews, according to Christianity. Report It

Reply:jesus was a jew . he went against the religion so he was disowned/ Report It

Reply:Ummm, because Jesus was Jewish. And to the "Best Answer" Jewish is a religion, not a nationality. Report It

Reply:Jesus was most certainly a Jew! Report It

Reply:well i mean, come one, are you dense? the bible states that jesus is a jew, he is refered to many as rabbi, even by his disciples, and, he was born to two mary, who was jewish. he went to church, or, synagouge, untill he was 13, he probably even had a barmitspha Report It

Reply:Yes, Jesus Christ is jewish
Reply:The quotes in question aren't against the jewish (religious or racial) of the person referenced as Jesus in these texts, but rather questioning of his role as the hebrew Messiah and direct prophetic son of YHWH.





Additionally, the Talmud is a strict Orthodox reference and do not cover the vast differences the hebrew faith has. Ancient rabbinic sources aren't a good contrast to contemporary Jewish faiths. The catholic church, for instance, has older cannonical references which no longer apply in modern day times. If a man were to proclaim himself Christian, that would not mean he would instantly claim slaves from neighboring nations or bring his son to the edge of town to be stoned for disobedience.
Reply:Instead of asking, better to understand what you'r reading.
Reply:The only Book you need to read or find the answers in is the Holy Bioble. Jesus is the knig of Jews. Read, pray have faith. Draw close to god and he wiull draw close to you.





Do not get hung up on worldly things. The point being is that race does not matter in the spiritual realm. If you remember, jesus was conceived by emanicapted conception. He is of God and came in the flesh. This was purposeful, he is divine. Race is only an issue to those who try to be racist and seperate and divide people. Look at the souls not the flesh. God tells us to walk in the spirit %26amp; not in the flesh. People of the world look at the external, God and those of faith look at the spirit and soul...
Reply:Thanks for your propaganda. Do you get paid for doing this?
Reply:If he was jewish, then how could he bring a new holy book?
Reply:ooo...kay.....I'm done reading and all I feel is this Anti-Semitic warm feelings after reading it...


we are animals??? sheesh...


yo, christians and moslems, you guys ought to see this, forget about the quran-bible debate! this is NUTS!
Reply:dude, get over it. there are more important things to worry about.
Reply:Pick a news client, subscribe to a group called "soc.culture.jewish". There you'll find many Jews who might debate/answer/debunk your Q.
Reply:HUH? My question for you is: "How long did it take you to research and write your essay (or whatever it is)?" Have a blessed life.
Reply:And you need 5000 words of nonsense? Jesus has always been a jew. Judaism has never said he wasn't, just that he isn't the messiah they are waiting for. I don't know why its so hard for fundamentalist christians to grasp that concept.
Reply:i'm sure poeple will call this anti-semitic. but to me, i'm sure this true. i also studied about jew before.
Reply:you claim that the talmud is the most important jewish religious text. it is not: the torah is.





the turn of phrase you use 'Judaism's holiest book' is typical white supremacist misunderstanding (white supremacists are not intelligent enough to tell lies).





what i always find most amusing about white supremacists is that you tell yourself lies and then misunderstand them.





your argument would be laughable if you could make it more coherent.
Reply:i hope no one actually believes what this guy wrote about the talmud.





the torah is THE most holy book for the jews, the talmud is merely a commentary. a commentary on what you ask? laws. for example, where and how you can get married, how to kill a goat, what shoes you can wear on shabbot, how you can't ask someone the price of something unless you actually want to buy it, ect ect.


but still, the torah is number 1 and all jews must study and read it.





remember, people are people. and there will be bad jews. just like there are bad muslims and bad christians. i suggest you read the talmud, the REAL talmud, and see for yourself.





oh, and the jews never said jesus wasn't a jew. he even lived among jews. didn't preach to the pagans. that was paul.





this is where antisemitism comes from. people spreading lies.
Reply:"not you again" haven't you got anything other than this hate mungoring ,i feel very sad for youall of the above was written by exstremists who have no power and very little following and has no rellevance to real judaism,and by the way jesus was jewish he was from the line of david,plus he was a rabbi and had no intention of creating a new religion he was trying to get the people back to true judaism,it was the romans that created christianity for control over the people,
Reply:You have definitely done your homework on this topic. I got confused by all you wrote, but I have a much simpler answer. the Bible says that Jesus was Jewish. the Bible is what God wants us to know, so follow that. who cares what the Jews think about Him? The Bible is the only True reference.
Reply:Get a life.
Reply:He was Jewish, his mother was, he was circumsised, he taught about the Torah, which is the Holiest book to Jews.





The Talmud is like Hadith(muslim naratives of Muhammad). It was written by men and modified to suite their own needs.
Reply:simple answer :


their 15 minutes will be over soon .


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